Good points one was taken at 11 the other at 4. If we traded back he makes a lot more sense. We need a game changer and he would help, so it would matter what we did in FA and then this pick could work but I’d like to move back a little to get him.
“Pat Pete. Ramsey. Whoever you want to compare him to, go ahead,” said one area scout tasked with scouting Ohio State. “He’s better than any dude that’s come out of there.”
One Ohio State staffer said he’s “the most mature and self-motivated cornerback out of the recent ones” they’ve had. Mature and self-motivated are two words not often used to describe cornerbacks, who can be high-maintenance and attention-seeking.
“We’re talking about a kid who enrolled early and was a scholar athlete as a true freshman,” said the area scout. “At most schools he starts right away, but [Ohio State] had Denzel Ward and Kendall Sheffield in there. He’s the most naturally gifted cornerback I’ve seen since Ramsey—but he’s not going to worry you with his mouth.”
“I was there for Ward and Marshon. Okudah is what would happen if you combined their positive traits,” said a former Ohio State assistant coach.
If it’s Okudah I’m okay with it. I’m hopeful that’s after a move down to 5 but I can live with it regardless. We’d be elite at CB in year 1 and then hopefully going forward with one more year of development out of Amani.
Can’t disagree with this. There are no absolute rules in the draft, because each one is unique. Brian Burns would be the #2 EDGE in this draft. Quenton Nelson was drafted in the top 5 and was absolutely worth it. I think you should not be locked into “BPA” because it has to be a blend between need, talent and value where you pick. Okudah would NOT be a bad pick. At 3? Tough call because a franchise LT will be there and we could use one. He and Decker could duke it out and the other guy goes to RT moving on from Wagner.
BUT. Our offense with Bevell is light years ahead of our defense with Patricia and both of those situations remain for 2020 (with a one year mandate to go from crap to really good). Yes we need pass rush, but do you reach for the DE from Iowa or Penn State over Okudah? Okudah is not a little better value wise, he’s a lot better IMHO. He’s a big, tall, fast, sticky, aggressive CB from a top flight program who has shut down first round NFL talent. Those guys don’t exactly grow on trees. If he’s a grade A human being, that’s even harder to get with that package. There is a reason why everyone in the world is saying he’s a top 5 pick, so no it is not “stupid” to draft a guy like that up top.
That said, IF Young is gone, that means that the #1 LT and the #2 QB are still on the board. There is no reason to sit at 3 and reach for anyone here. Trade down and collect picks then take the guy who falls, whether it’s Thomas or Okuda, or then it makes it more palatable for a Brown, Gross-Matos or Iowa kid (can’t spell his name yet).
Agreed. It’s early in the process but right now I think I’d like to first trade-down for someone like Simmons if possible, and if not, take Okudah or whichever OT we have graded the highest (I’m a bigger fan of Wills than Thomas myself but it’s close).
Relax I agree. I didn’t say they did. Point is Ohio State has one of the best rosters money can buy. 1st point. They are loaded with talent and this kid started and was a standout. They put a lot of players in the NFL. Second point is that their scheme may help this kid have an easier time adjusting to the pro game. So the point is drafting a CB may not be a bad move if you get a good one. I am more comfortable drafting a CB if other positions are filled thus my comment about FA and I also alluded to I wouldn’t mind if he were picked later than #3. I will admit, I do think this kid has a great chance at success and appears to have his head on straight. Problem is most take a while to adjust.
We all realize they are all just PROSPECTS at this time and none are guaranteed to be pro-bowlers. including Burrow and Chase or Thomas.
I hope to see Simmons in the title game. His resume sounds like a Brian Urlacher type and maybe a bit faster. We have a huge need at LB as we are probably the worst set of LB’s in the NFL today. Patricia can use a player like that and if he sees Simmons as that impactful I would see the Lions using FA to address the DT issue which we will know before the draft!