I know we’ve talked, at length, about Trey Flowers’ impact pass rushing. He’s hit his average as far as sacks(7). But do you guys think that Kennard’s sack numbers are adequate? He currently has seven. Is that enough for a guy that primarily rushes the passer? If not, what would be an acceptable amount? Rookie Josh Allen has ten sacks…as a Rookie. Flowers has come on as of late, recovering from the shoulder injury. But he doesn’t get home on sacks often. But what about Kennard? I personally, believe he is the player that should be replaced. Can Chase Young play the JACK? What say you…??
I think you won’t see one guy on MP’s defense that will wow you with stats. It’s the same with the Patriots. Their leading sack leader is Collins with 6 sacks. It’s all about the match-ups and exploiting weaknesses.
Why replace Kennard? He and Flowers are the only two threats that we have.
Our #2 sack total was 1.5. That’s not going to cut it. It also wouldn’t hurt if we used Davis more like we did in the second half of ‘18. Also would help to get Hand back healthy and rushing as a three technique on obvious passing downs.
Kennard is one of our better defenders. He is a contributor, not “the answer”. He can be seen rushing on most snaps and dropping into coverage on others. I think a stronger rotation would benefit him. He fits the mold with versatility and length. He and Tavai will be an interesting pairing this next year, assuming there are additional pieces added to the line and rotation.
By the way, Kennard does not play the JACK. JACK is a 3-4 OLB on the weakside. Most snaps Kennard is technically either the DE or the SAM.
I don’t think Kennard is a problem, but there is always room for improvement. Young would be an upgrade, though personally I would prefer to take a flyer on Uche in the 4th.
To me its not about sacks as much as pressures and ability to do more than just rush the passer, because that’s how this scheme is built. Kennard is a mid level veteran at best, which is why his contract is so low for a “pass rusher.” A guy Kennard’s age would command $10M+ if he was a force as a pass rusher, and that’s what it would take to get a guy who’s a proven pass rusher to replace him. From the “moneyball” standpoint, I can see where Quinn is coming from. That being said, I would like to see more pressures and tackles for loss from him.
How is this relevant?
I have this love/ hate thing with Kennard. The guy plays hard and typically starts the season strong and then just kind of disappears. 3 of his 7 sacks this year came in the first game and he had a stretch of 7 straight games without a sack. And not to say Sacks are the end-all stat to look at but I’m just saying.
Personally, Kennard is part of a LB crew where he’s probably the best LB we have…which is sad.
Although he’s more of a pass rusher than anything else.
He’s a solid player on a terrible defense. Which would make him a below average player on a good defense.
This defense has no impact players and no leaders. Someone will make some plays by default. Kennard does that on occasion. He probably wouldn’t start on 20+ NFL teams though.
Sacks are not the end all be all like you said, but I think Kennard’s sack totals are a good indication of an overall lack of pressures and lack of impact he’s having on the games. I actually want to throw some money at Bud Dupree to take over Kennard’s role.
I think we need to upgrade Kennard. It’s not just his lack of sacks, but his lack of pressures. He disappears for long stretches and doesn’t do anything very good. He shows up for a few games a season. For his contract you can’t expect much more, but we need a game changer at his position.
I would rather add Dupree and keep Kennard, he’s only a 5 million dollar player.
Just a comparison. A rookie getting more sacks can be seen as a pro or con. Would you consider Kennard as our primary pass rusher?
Kennard is a solid role player being asked to be a star.
He’s Tim Hardaway Jr on the Knicks.
I think this is the right type of question. What position comes in as a new starter and puts the QB in the dirt, or makes him get rid of it, the most often? I’d say Kennard, for example gets on the field more in this system, than Christian Jones. When we go Nickle, Kennard stays in and the MLB (Davis or cough… no Tavai). It wouldn’t shock me if we move Davis, but the plan at MLB is Tavai. We could use a better WLB than Jones and perhaps if we got a true cover LB and replaced Jones, he’d stay on the field, with Kennard and Tavai would sit. The position that is used primarily as a Dlineman is the SAM position.
So if we want immediate production in the pass rush department, investing in a guy who would make Kennard a backup on most downs, wouldn’t be a bad position to target. The other IMO is LDE and Okwara. For the same reason, if we turned a 7 sack guy into a 13 sack guy plus all you get in the “almost” department from a talent increase like that, I think it goes a long way fast. We aren’t moving away from Flowers anchoring RDE and Harrison at NT on most snaps. So it only leaves three of the front seven outside of that to bring pressure. 3t seems more occasional than LDE, but both can be viewed as rotational with Patricia. I’d like to upgrade 2 of the three positions this year, and hope that Hand gets on the field.
This style of defense doesn’t necessarily call for a sack artist. NE has 5 players with at least 5 sacks each, but none have over 6.5 (and that’s Van Noy…) and 2 of those 5 are situational players. Our LBer group is the worst position group on the team IMO and that’s where the pressure should be coming from in this defense. We need 2 new starters this offseason, both Davis and Kennard need to be situational players.
Kennard is an OLB that also plays DE.
Tavai is an ILB that also plays OLB.
If they’re part of a group that includes a more lethal pass-rusher ahead of Kennard and a version of Davis that can play instinctively and cover, then the LB group is a good group.
Tavai needs to move inside to be a 2 down thumper.
I’m not even sure what to do with Davis anymore, he’s become awful at everything he does. Kennard seems to be the best of the bunch, although I’m not sure how much he plays LB compared to LDE?!..but you don’t improve the LB Corp from the top down, so Kennard stays in my book anyways.
Given that we hate Davis and understand that to Tavai is an oversized middle linebacker who’s two down only plus Kennard is a rush linebacker specialist yet isn’t Elite, I have to ask the question why did we extend Christian Jones???
Good question. And the answer is:
I haven’t the slightest effing clue. Nobody knows but Quinn. And I’m questioning if he really knows why.
Because he buys in. Doesn’t matter if he’s actually good at football