If Miami wanted to move-up to get a QB, what would you take?

Going by the Draft Trade Value chart, our pick is worth 2200 points.
Miami has 3 picks in the first round: #7oa, #15oa, and #25oa.
Miami also has 2 picks in the 2nd round: #39oa and #60oa

RD1 RD2 RD3 RD4 RD5 RD6 RD7
PK/TM PK/TM PK/TM PK/TM PK/TM PK/TM PK/TM
1 CIN 3000 33 CIN 580 65 CIN 265 97 CIN 112 129 CIN 43 160 CIN 27.4 192 CIN 14.6
2 WAS 2600 34 IND 560 66 WAS 260 98 WAS 108 130 WAS 42 161 DEN 27 193 WAS 14.2
3 DET 2200 35 DET 550 67 DET 255 99 DET 104 131 DET 41 162 DET 26.6 194 SF 13.8
4 NYG 1800 36 NYG 540 68 NYJ 250 100 NYG 100 132 NYG 40 163 NYG 26.2 195 GB 13.4
5 MIA 1700 37 LAC 530 69 CAR 245 101 PIT 96 133 LAC 39.5 164 CAR 25.8 196 MIN 13
6 LAC 1600 38 CAR 520 70 MIA 240 102 LAC 92 134 CAR 39 165 MIA 25.4 197 LAC 12.6
7 CAR 1500 39 MIA 510 71 LAC 235 103 CAR 88 135 ARI 38.5 166 LAC 25 198 CAR 12.2
8 ARI 1400 40 ARI 500 72 ARI 230 104 ARI 86 136 PIT 38 167 CLE 24.6 199 ARI 11.8
9 JAX 1350 41 CLE 490 73 JAX 225 105 CLE 84 137 BUF 37.5 168 BUF 24.2 200 JAX 11.4
10 CLE 1300 42 JAX 480 74 CLE 220 106 JAX 82 138 SF 37 169 JAX 23.8 201 CLE 11
11 NYJ 1250 43 CHI 470 75 IND 215 107 TB 80 139 ATL 36.5 170 PHI 23.4 202 BAL 10.6
12 LV 1200 44 IND 460 76 TB 210 108 DEN 78 140 NYJ 36 171 IND 23 203 LV 10.2
13 IND 1150 45 TB 450 77 DEN 205 109 ATL 76 141 LV 35.5 172 LV 22.6 204 IND 9.8
14 TB 1100 46 DEN 440 78 ATL 200 110 NYJ 74 142 IND 35 173 IND 22.2 205 ATL 9.4
15 DEN 1050 47 ATL 430 79 NYJ 195 111 LV 72 143 TB 34.5 174 TB 21.8 206 WAS 9
16 ATL 1000 48 NYJ 420 80 LV 190 112 IND 70 144 MIA 34 175 NE 21.4 207 ATL 8.6
17 DAL 950 49 PIT 410 81 LV 185 113 DAL 68 145 CHI 33.5 176 CHI 21 208 DAL 8.2
18 MIA 900 50 CHI 400 82 DAL 180 114 PIT 66 146 DAL 33 177 MIA 20.6 209 PIT 7.8
19 LV 875 51 DAL 390 83 DEN 175 115 NE 64 147 JAX 32.6 178 PIT 20.2 210 CHI 7.4
20 JAX 850 52 LAR 380 84 LAR 170 116 LAR 62 148 PHI 32.2 179 LAR 19.8 211 LAR 7
21 PHI 800 53 PHI 370 85 PHI 165 117 PHI 60 149 TEN 31.8 180 PHI 19.4 212 NE 6.6
22 TEN 780 54 TEN 360 86 TEN 160 118 HOU 58 150 BUF 31.4 181 TEN 19 213 GB 6.2
23 BUF 760 55 BUF 350 87 BUF 155 119 BUF 56 151 BAL 31 182 BUF 18.6 214 CLE 5.8
24 MIN 740 56 MIN 340 88 MIN 150 120 MIN 54 152 HOU 30.6 183 MIN 18.2 215 MIN 5.4
25 MIA 720 57 HOU 330 89 CLE 145 121 HOU 52 153 DET 30.2 184 NE 17.8 216 HOU 5
26 SEA 700 58 SEA 320 90 LV 140 122 SEA 50 154 PHI 29.8 185 JAX 17.4 217 SEA 4.6
27 NE 680 59 ATL 310 91 NE 136 123 NE 49 155 NO 29.4 186 BUF 17 218 DEN 4.2
28 NO 660 60 MIA 300 92 NO 132 124 NO 48 156 KC 29 187 NO 16.6 219 NYG 3.8
29 KC 640 61 SEA 292 93 KC 128 125 KC 47 157 GB 28.6 188 NYJ 16.2 220 MIA 3.4
30 GB 620 62 GB 284 94 GB 124 126 GB 46 158 SF 28.2 189 GB 15.8 221 NYG 3
31 SF 600 63 KC 276 95 DEN 120 127 DEN 45 159 BAL 27.8 190 SF 15.4 222 SF 2.6
32 BAL 590 64 BAL 270 96 BAL 116 128 BAL 44 191 BAL 15 223 GB 2.3

Our 1st and 3rd for their #5OA and #18OA. With this i think we could draft Brown and Matos.

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The 2018 Sam Darnold trade would be informative here IMO. The Colts sat at 3; the Jets at 6 in 2018. The Lions are at 3; the Fins at 5…so not perfect but close. Also not perfect in that Sam Darnold is probably better than whatever QB is there at 3, unless a team gets really hot on Tua and his health.

Colts swapped for 6,and two second rounders that year (2018) , plus a second rounder the next year (2019). Drafted their two starting OGs (Nelson and Braden), Rock Ya Sin (starting Nickel). Turay was also part of that deal and has contributed as a sub package pass rusher with some starts. Not a bad haul to move down three spots. But its all about how good you draft. They also took Leonard at weakside backer that year in the second with their own pick.

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Mia gets the Lions #3 and #35
Det get Mia #5 and #18 and #70

I’d seriously consider that if I were BQ.

The thing is that the drop off in talent goes down significantly after the top 3-5 picks. So the value has to be a bit lopsided.

If two teams want to trade up for Tua than the Lions could benefit from a bidding war. Or Wash could.

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I think this is a really interesting draft. To me, its not about getting one particular player. Even Chase Young. I’m looking at this draft and I see more names that could help than I recall in a long time. There are names that we’ve talked about like Chase Young, Jerry Judy, AJ Epenesa, and Jeff Okudah. And there are names we haven’t really touched on yet. For instance, the biggest darkhorse for our pick IMO is Isaiah Simmons. The guy is a dead ringer for our system with his batshit crazy versatility. He is probably Clemson’s best pass rusher and picked off a pass in the semi-final playing two deep safety. By the way he runs a 4.3 40 and he’s 6’4" 230 and you know he’ll add 15-20 lbs in the NFL easy.

Then I keep doing these mocks and some really good players are falling to us in the 2nd and 3rd consistently. So getting an extra second or extra first (if we’re lucky), second, or third has real appeal to me. Especially if its a high pick in rounds 2-3.

Isaiah Simmons after a trade down (or two) to 7-9 is my favorite possible scenario

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Simmons tests out amazing, but he didn’t jump off the screen during that game for me. I’ll be watching tape on him at some point in the next month though bc you’re right, his assets are a perfect fit for this defense, just need to see if his play matches his measurables

What stood out to me was his ability to chase down a play with that speed and length combined with his pass defense where he can cover better than most LBs I’ve ever seen that size.

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One other thing to add:

IMO, the draft starts to heat up at 3. The odds are high the Bengals stay put and take Burrows. The Redskins then have to decide what to do. I think it’ll be very very hard to pass on Chase Young. The Lions are next, and here’s the thing: its not JUST the Dolphins who are looking at QBs (word is they are heavily looking at Herbert) at 5. Its the Chargers who have to start seriously thinking about Philip Rivers replacement at 6. Its the Carolina Panthers who have to start thinking about Cam’s replacement at 7. The Colts need a QB at 13. Teams trade up to get their QB. Its the one position where things get a little crazy. And if the top 2 teams keep their picks, the Lions hold the key to the entire first round IMO. Nice spot to be in.

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I think Gross-Matos will be gone before 18. I think I’d rather keep our high 3rd rounder, just go with the points and go from 3 to 5 for their high 2nd. Then from 5 we will still be able to deal. I’m looking at SD ooops LAC who needs a QB badly and by 5 the top 2 guys will likely be gone considering folks wanting to move up. I think LAC would be desperate enough to move up from 7 to 5 to get their guy. From there, you are in solid Gross-Matos territory, or a guy like Okuda falls and makes a lot more sense there than at 3, then you pick up the Chargers 3rd maybe a bit more. Now you are at 7 and have 2 high second rounders and 2 high 3rd rounders and for me who you wouldn’t be able to get from pick 3 to pick 7 ain’t worth giving all that draft loot.

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If Tua ends up being in the draft and gets a clean bill of health I could see the Redskins trading down with the Dolphins. Hopefully Tua declares on Monday.

Personally I think the Lions will view him as a bad fit.
As a LBers hes small for MP’s system and we apparently don’t need safeties. We’re so deep at safety that we can afford to give a way young Probowl level players for 5th round picks.

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